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Borg Vomit



Joined: 25 Feb 2008
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 6:28 pm    Post subject: Takes days (almost a week) to install XP VPC on Vista Host Reply with quote

Ok,
Host:2 gig ram total on Vista Ult, I gave 1gig ram to the VPC.
The VPC has a 20 gig vHD.
The XP cd is retail, the Vista Ult cd is retail.

I saw that the partition was taking hours, so I rebooted the VPC and
host. I started over, same thing, very slow. I checked all the
settings and the only thing I could find was a suggestion to uncheck
the cd on the secondary controller (so I unchecked it).

I just let it run and now I'm on day 4 -- about 2 days was just
copying files and it's still not done installing.

Oh, and I checked the ip addresses of the host and vpc controllers to
make sure they were different but on the same subnet etc.

I can't think of anything else to try...any ideas?

I don't know if it matters, but it's an Intel Mobo. I keep telling
my buds not to buy intel boards, but they buy them, realize it doesn't
do what they want it to do and give them to me. I try to use them as
dev pc's but they never seem to run 100%. Is it me or does anyone
else have probs with Intel Mobo's?

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Steve Jain



Joined: 22 Aug 2007
Posts: 835

PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 8:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Takes days (almost a week) to install XP VPC on Vista Ho Reply with quote

On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:28:39 -0800 (PST), Borg Vomit
wrote:

>Ok,
>Host:2 gig ram total on Vista Ult, I gave 1gig ram to the VPC.
>The VPC has a 20 gig vHD.
>The XP cd is retail, the Vista Ult cd is retail.
>
>I saw that the partition was taking hours, so I rebooted the VPC and
>host. I started over, same thing, very slow. I checked all the
>settings and the only thing I could find was a suggestion to uncheck
>the cd on the secondary controller (so I unchecked it).
>
>I just let it run and now I'm on day 4 -- about 2 days was just
>copying files and it's still not done installing.
>
>Oh, and I checked the ip addresses of the host and vpc controllers to
>make sure they were different but on the same subnet etc.
>
>I can't think of anything else to try...any ideas?
>
>I don't know if it matters, but it's an Intel Mobo. I keep telling
>my buds not to buy intel boards, but they buy them, realize it doesn't
>do what they want it to do and give them to me. I try to use them as
>dev pc's but they never seem to run 100%. Is it me or does anyone
>else have probs with Intel Mobo's?


It shouldn't take that much longer than a real install.

What are the specs of the host PC? Are you installing XP on the same
hard drive as the host OS? Did you change any of the settings for the
VMs performance, like running it at a slower speed when it's not the
active window?

As Robert said, create an ISO of the CD and install from that, it will
speed up the installation significantly.

--
Cheers,
Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
http://vpc.essjae.com/
I do not work for Microsoft.
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Colin Barnhorst



Joined: 06 Jan 2008
Posts: 210

PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 8:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Takes days (almost a week) to install XP VPC on Vista Ho Reply with quote

Heck, I only use 256mb for an XP vm for installing the OS and adjust later
(maybe). You're a generous man, Robert. Not that I don't have oodles of
ram on the host.

"Robert Comer" wrote in message @4ax.com...
> First cut the allocation down to 512M for the XP VM, yo don't need any
> more than that to install -- you can change it later if you need to,
> then use something to copy the XP installer DVD to an ISO file and
> then attach the ISO to the VM and install from that.
>
> --
> Bob Comer
>
>
>
> On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:28:39 -0800 (PST), Borg Vomit
> wrote:
>
>>Ok,
>>Host:2 gig ram total on Vista Ult, I gave 1gig ram to the VPC.
>>The VPC has a 20 gig vHD.
>>The XP cd is retail, the Vista Ult cd is retail.
>>
>>I saw that the partition was taking hours, so I rebooted the VPC and
>>host. I started over, same thing, very slow. I checked all the
>>settings and the only thing I could find was a suggestion to uncheck
>>the cd on the secondary controller (so I unchecked it).
>>
>>I just let it run and now I'm on day 4 -- about 2 days was just
>>copying files and it's still not done installing.
>>
>>Oh, and I checked the ip addresses of the host and vpc controllers to
>>make sure they were different but on the same subnet etc.
>>
>>I can't think of anything else to try...any ideas?
>>
>>I don't know if it matters, but it's an Intel Mobo. I keep telling
>>my buds not to buy intel boards, but they buy them, realize it doesn't
>>do what they want it to do and give them to me. I try to use them as
>>dev pc's but they never seem to run 100%. Is it me or does anyone
>>else have probs with Intel Mobo's?
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Robert Comer



Joined: 22 Aug 2007
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 10:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Takes days (almost a week) to install XP VPC on Vista Ho Reply with quote

First cut the allocation down to 512M for the XP VM, yo don't need any
more than that to install -- you can change it later if you need to,
then use something to copy the XP installer DVD to an ISO file and
then attach the ISO to the VM and install from that.

--
Bob Comer



On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:28:39 -0800 (PST), Borg Vomit
wrote:

>Ok,
>Host:2 gig ram total on Vista Ult, I gave 1gig ram to the VPC.
>The VPC has a 20 gig vHD.
>The XP cd is retail, the Vista Ult cd is retail.
>
>I saw that the partition was taking hours, so I rebooted the VPC and
>host. I started over, same thing, very slow. I checked all the
>settings and the only thing I could find was a suggestion to uncheck
>the cd on the secondary controller (so I unchecked it).
>
>I just let it run and now I'm on day 4 -- about 2 days was just
>copying files and it's still not done installing.
>
>Oh, and I checked the ip addresses of the host and vpc controllers to
>make sure they were different but on the same subnet etc.
>
>I can't think of anything else to try...any ideas?
>
>I don't know if it matters, but it's an Intel Mobo. I keep telling
>my buds not to buy intel boards, but they buy them, realize it doesn't
>do what they want it to do and give them to me. I try to use them as
>dev pc's but they never seem to run 100%. Is it me or does anyone
>else have probs with Intel Mobo's?
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Colin Barnhorst



Joined: 06 Jan 2008
Posts: 210

PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 2:18 am    Post subject: Re: Takes days (almost a week) to install XP VPC on Vista Ho Reply with quote

I have been doing some testing for XP SP3 and my Q6600 system installs XP in
about fifteen minutes. Rah Rah for hardware virtualization. [shameless
plug for my new box Smile]

"Steve Jain" wrote in message @4ax.com...
> On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:28:39 -0800 (PST), Borg Vomit
> wrote:
>
>>Ok,
>>Host:2 gig ram total on Vista Ult, I gave 1gig ram to the VPC.
>>The VPC has a 20 gig vHD.
>>The XP cd is retail, the Vista Ult cd is retail.
>>
>>I saw that the partition was taking hours, so I rebooted the VPC and
>>host. I started over, same thing, very slow. I checked all the
>>settings and the only thing I could find was a suggestion to uncheck
>>the cd on the secondary controller (so I unchecked it).
>>
>>I just let it run and now I'm on day 4 -- about 2 days was just
>>copying files and it's still not done installing.
>>
>>Oh, and I checked the ip addresses of the host and vpc controllers to
>>make sure they were different but on the same subnet etc.
>>
>>I can't think of anything else to try...any ideas?
>>
>>I don't know if it matters, but it's an Intel Mobo. I keep telling
>>my buds not to buy intel boards, but they buy them, realize it doesn't
>>do what they want it to do and give them to me. I try to use them as
>>dev pc's but they never seem to run 100%. Is it me or does anyone
>>else have probs with Intel Mobo's?
>
>
> It shouldn't take that much longer than a real install.
>
> What are the specs of the host PC? Are you installing XP on the same
> hard drive as the host OS? Did you change any of the settings for the
> VMs performance, like running it at a slower speed when it's not the
> active window?
>
> As Robert said, create an ISO of the CD and install from that, it will
> speed up the installation significantly.
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
> http://vpc.essjae.com/
> I do not work for Microsoft.
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Robert Comer



Joined: 22 Aug 2007
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 3:51 am    Post subject: Re: Takes days (almost a week) to install XP VPC on Vista Ho Reply with quote

256 works for me most of the time as well, but I was being generous.


128M will get XP installed, but it really does start to slow down at
that point.

--
Bob Comer


On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 15:52:39 -0700, "Colin Barnhorst"
wrote:

>Heck, I only use 256mb for an XP vm for installing the OS and adjust later
>(maybe). You're a generous man, Robert. Not that I don't have oodles of
>ram on the host.
>
>"Robert Comer" wrote in message
>@4ax.com...
>> First cut the allocation down to 512M for the XP VM, yo don't need any
>> more than that to install -- you can change it later if you need to,
>> then use something to copy the XP installer DVD to an ISO file and
>> then attach the ISO to the VM and install from that.
>>
>> --
>> Bob Comer
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:28:39 -0800 (PST), Borg Vomit
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Ok,
>>>Host:2 gig ram total on Vista Ult, I gave 1gig ram to the VPC.
>>>The VPC has a 20 gig vHD.
>>>The XP cd is retail, the Vista Ult cd is retail.
>>>
>>>I saw that the partition was taking hours, so I rebooted the VPC and
>>>host. I started over, same thing, very slow. I checked all the
>>>settings and the only thing I could find was a suggestion to uncheck
>>>the cd on the secondary controller (so I unchecked it).
>>>
>>>I just let it run and now I'm on day 4 -- about 2 days was just
>>>copying files and it's still not done installing.
>>>
>>>Oh, and I checked the ip addresses of the host and vpc controllers to
>>>make sure they were different but on the same subnet etc.
>>>
>>>I can't think of anything else to try...any ideas?
>>>
>>>I don't know if it matters, but it's an Intel Mobo. I keep telling
>>>my buds not to buy intel boards, but they buy them, realize it doesn't
>>>do what they want it to do and give them to me. I try to use them as
>>>dev pc's but they never seem to run 100%. Is it me or does anyone
>>>else have probs with Intel Mobo's?

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