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MikeCox



Joined: 26 Feb 2008
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 5:55 pm    Post subject: USB or Paralled Workstion Reply with quote

I have read a several responces to the USB issue; several of which just
boggled my mind.

I am fairly computer savvy but tend to loose it when the conversation gets
too techy.

Here's my issue:

I've been given a Toshiba Satellite series 205 laptop with Vista Home
Premiere to replace my series 105 Toshiba with XP.

I am scared to death of Vista; based on all the bad reviews I've read and
all the nasty things I've heard said about it on Cranky Geeks, etc.

I'm given serious thought to removing it and installing XP; until I heard
about VPC.

Then I read it wouldn't run on Home Premiere, then I heard it would; even
though the documentation says it won't. So, will it? Or do I need to
upgrade Vista?

That was encourageing until I read it didn't support USB. So I went looking
to something that did; like Parallel Workstation.

Then I read that: "The host system must be running one of the following:
Windows 2000, Windows XP, Windows Server 2003." So I guess that rules out
that option.

So I'm back to considering removing Vista or trying VPC; in spite of the USB
issue.

I understand I can use the file Shareing option to get a USB HD to work with
VPC. But will the Host OS allow for USB applications; like printers etc.?
--
Michael

XP SP2
and Trying to convert to Vista

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Seaspray



Joined: 26 Feb 2008
Posts: 3

PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 6:17 pm    Post subject: RE: USB or Paralled Workstion Reply with quote

Reference Virtual PC 2007:

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/winfamily/virtualpc/overview.mspx

Vista Home Premium is not on this list. An alternative virtual software is
VMware desktop but that will cost some $$ and it may not work on vista home
premium either. I suggest you try the home premium but hold off activating
it. You have 60 days before activation is required, and you can decide for
yourself what you think of vista. You are allowed to downgrade your OS if
you desire.

"MikeCox" wrote:

> I have read a several responces to the USB issue; several of which just
> boggled my mind.
>
> I am fairly computer savvy but tend to loose it when the conversation gets
> too techy.
>
> Here's my issue:
>
> I've been given a Toshiba Satellite series 205 laptop with Vista Home
> Premiere to replace my series 105 Toshiba with XP.
>
> I am scared to death of Vista; based on all the bad reviews I've read and
> all the nasty things I've heard said about it on Cranky Geeks, etc.
>
> I'm given serious thought to removing it and installing XP; until I heard
> about VPC.
>
> Then I read it wouldn't run on Home Premiere, then I heard it would; even
> though the documentation says it won't. So, will it? Or do I need to
> upgrade Vista?
>
> That was encourageing until I read it didn't support USB. So I went looking
> to something that did; like Parallel Workstation.
>
> Then I read that: "The host system must be running one of the following:
> Windows 2000, Windows XP, Windows Server 2003." So I guess that rules out
> that option.
>
> So I'm back to considering removing Vista or trying VPC; in spite of the USB
> issue.
>
> I understand I can use the file Shareing option to get a USB HD to work with
> VPC. But will the Host OS allow for USB applications; like printers etc.?
> --
> Michael
>
> XP SP2
> and Trying to convert to Vista
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Steve Jain



Joined: 22 Aug 2007
Posts: 835

PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 6:34 pm    Post subject: Re: USB or Paralled Workstion Reply with quote

Comments inline:

On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 12:55:01 -0800, MikeCox
wrote:

>I have read a several responces to the USB issue; several of which just
>boggled my mind.
>
>I am fairly computer savvy but tend to loose it when the conversation gets
>too techy.
>
>Here's my issue:
>
>I've been given a Toshiba Satellite series 205 laptop with Vista Home
>Premiere to replace my series 105 Toshiba with XP.
>
>I am scared to death of Vista; based on all the bad reviews I've read and
>all the nasty things I've heard said about it on Cranky Geeks, etc.

Are you having problems? If not, ignore the naysayers. I've been
using Vista on many computers for a long time and it works great.

>
>I'm given serious thought to removing it and installing XP; until I heard
>about VPC.
>
>Then I read it wouldn't run on Home Premiere, then I heard it would; even
>though the documentation says it won't. So, will it? Or do I need to
>upgrade Vista?

VPC will work fine on Vista Home Premium, however, it is not supported
by Microsoft. So, while it works fine, you can't call MS for product
support.

>
>That was encourageing until I read it didn't support USB. So I went looking
>to something that did; like Parallel Workstation.
>
>Then I read that: "The host system must be running one of the following:
>Windows 2000, Windows XP, Windows Server 2003." So I guess that rules out
>that option.

I'm not sure where you saw that, look here, Vista is listed:
http://www.parallels.com/en/products/workstation/sr/

>
>So I'm back to considering removing Vista or trying VPC; in spite of the USB
>issue.
>
>I understand I can use the file Shareing option to get a USB HD to work with
>VPC. But will the Host OS allow for USB applications; like printers etc.?

Yes, you would simply share your printer via the standard network
sharing and then connect to it from the guest.

If you want a free VM product that supports USB, look at VirtualBox.
It will run on Vista. http://www.virtualbox.org

--
Cheers,
Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
http://vpc.essjae.com/
I do not work for Microsoft.
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Steve Jain



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 6:35 pm    Post subject: Re: USB or Paralled Workstion Reply with quote

On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 13:17:02 -0800, Seaspray
wrote:

>Reference Virtual PC 2007:
>
>http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/winfamily/virtualpc/overview.mspx
>
>Vista Home Premium is not on this list. An alternative virtual software is
>VMware desktop but that will cost some $$ and it may not work on vista home
>premium either. I suggest you try the home premium but hold off activating
>it. You have 60 days before activation is required, and you can decide for
>yourself what you think of vista. You are allowed to downgrade your OS if
>you desire.
>

It's not supported by MS tech support, but it works fine.

--
Cheers,
Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
http://vpc.essjae.com/
I do not work for Microsoft.
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MikeCox



Joined: 26 Feb 2008
Posts: 5

PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 6:53 pm    Post subject: Re: USB or Paralled Workstion Reply with quote

Thanks for your very complete reply.

Don't know how to get Quotes in reply so I'll just cut and paste

"Are you having problems? If not, ignore the naysayers. I've been
using Vista on many computers for a long time and it works great."

I'm not having problems; I've barely used it. *Thanks* for the
encouragement; it's good to hear! I really would prefer to stick with Vista,
now that I have it; I just don't want a whole new set of distractions and
headaches.

"I'm not sure where you saw that, look here, Vista is listed"

Did I miss something?
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,1951936,00.asp

Thanks for the Vertual Box link. I will check it out. I really would like
not to have to deal with this USB issue.


--
Michael

XP SP2
and Trying to convert to Vista


"Steve Jain" wrote:

> Comments inline:
>
> On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 12:55:01 -0800, MikeCox
> wrote:
>
> >I have read a several responces to the USB issue; several of which just
> >boggled my mind.
> >
> >I am fairly computer savvy but tend to loose it when the conversation gets
> >too techy.
> >
> >Here's my issue:
> >
> >I've been given a Toshiba Satellite series 205 laptop with Vista Home
> >Premiere to replace my series 105 Toshiba with XP.
> >
> >I am scared to death of Vista; based on all the bad reviews I've read and
> >all the nasty things I've heard said about it on Cranky Geeks, etc.
>
> Are you having problems? If not, ignore the naysayers. I've been
> using Vista on many computers for a long time and it works great.
>
> >
> >I'm given serious thought to removing it and installing XP; until I heard
> >about VPC.
> >
> >Then I read it wouldn't run on Home Premiere, then I heard it would; even
> >though the documentation says it won't. So, will it? Or do I need to
> >upgrade Vista?
>
> VPC will work fine on Vista Home Premium, however, it is not supported
> by Microsoft. So, while it works fine, you can't call MS for product
> support.
>
> >
> >That was encourageing until I read it didn't support USB. So I went looking
> >to something that did; like Parallel Workstation.
> >
> >Then I read that: "The host system must be running one of the following:
> >Windows 2000, Windows XP, Windows Server 2003." So I guess that rules out
> >that option.
>
> I'm not sure where you saw that, look here, Vista is listed:
> http://www.parallels.com/en/products/workstation/sr/
>
> >
> >So I'm back to considering removing Vista or trying VPC; in spite of the USB
> >issue.
> >
> >I understand I can use the file Shareing option to get a USB HD to work with
> >VPC. But will the Host OS allow for USB applications; like printers etc.?
>
> Yes, you would simply share your printer via the standard network
> sharing and then connect to it from the guest.
>
> If you want a free VM product that supports USB, look at VirtualBox.
> It will run on Vista. http://www.virtualbox.org
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
> http://vpc.essjae.com/
> I do not work for Microsoft.
>
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MikeCox



Joined: 26 Feb 2008
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 7:22 pm    Post subject: Re: USB or Paralled Workstion Reply with quote

That's what I missed! LOL
--
Michael

XP SP2
and Trying to convert to Vista


"Colin Barnhorst" wrote:

> Did you notice the date of the review? "REVIEW DATE: 04.20.06". Vista
> released to the public in January of 2007.
>
> "MikeCox" wrote in message
> @microsoft.com...
> > Thanks for your very complete reply.
> >
> > Don't know how to get Quotes in reply so I'll just cut and paste
> >
> > "Are you having problems? If not, ignore the naysayers. I've been
> > using Vista on many computers for a long time and it works great."
> >
> > I'm not having problems; I've barely used it. *Thanks* for the
> > encouragement; it's good to hear! I really would prefer to stick with
> > Vista,
> > now that I have it; I just don't want a whole new set of distractions and
> > headaches.
> >
> > "I'm not sure where you saw that, look here, Vista is listed"
> >
> > Did I miss something?
> > http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,1951936,00.asp
> >
> > Thanks for the Vertual Box link. I will check it out. I really would
> > like
> > not to have to deal with this USB issue.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Michael
> >
> > XP SP2
> > and Trying to convert to Vista
> >
> >
> > "Steve Jain" wrote:
> >
> >> Comments inline:
> >>
> >> On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 12:55:01 -0800, MikeCox
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >I have read a several responces to the USB issue; several of which just
> >> >boggled my mind.
> >> >
> >> >I am fairly computer savvy but tend to loose it when the conversation
> >> >gets
> >> >too techy.
> >> >
> >> >Here's my issue:
> >> >
> >> >I've been given a Toshiba Satellite series 205 laptop with Vista Home
> >> >Premiere to replace my series 105 Toshiba with XP.
> >> >
> >> >I am scared to death of Vista; based on all the bad reviews I've read
> >> >and
> >> >all the nasty things I've heard said about it on Cranky Geeks, etc.
> >>
> >> Are you having problems? If not, ignore the naysayers. I've been
> >> using Vista on many computers for a long time and it works great.
> >>
> >> >
> >> >I'm given serious thought to removing it and installing XP; until I
> >> >heard
> >> >about VPC.
> >> >
> >> >Then I read it wouldn't run on Home Premiere, then I heard it would;
> >> >even
> >> >though the documentation says it won't. So, will it? Or do I need to
> >> >upgrade Vista?
> >>
> >> VPC will work fine on Vista Home Premium, however, it is not supported
> >> by Microsoft. So, while it works fine, you can't call MS for product
> >> support.
> >>
> >> >
> >> >That was encourageing until I read it didn't support USB. So I went
> >> >looking
> >> >to something that did; like Parallel Workstation.
> >> >
> >> >Then I read that: "The host system must be running one of the following:
> >> >Windows 2000, Windows XP, Windows Server 2003." So I guess that rules
> >> >out
> >> >that option.
> >>
> >> I'm not sure where you saw that, look here, Vista is listed:
> >> http://www.parallels.com/en/products/workstation/sr/
> >>
> >> >
> >> >So I'm back to considering removing Vista or trying VPC; in spite of the
> >> >USB
> >> >issue.
> >> >
> >> >I understand I can use the file Shareing option to get a USB HD to work
> >> >with
> >> >VPC. But will the Host OS allow for USB applications; like printers
> >> >etc.?
> >>
> >> Yes, you would simply share your printer via the standard network
> >> sharing and then connect to it from the guest.
> >>
> >> If you want a free VM product that supports USB, look at VirtualBox.
> >> It will run on Vista. http://www.virtualbox.org
> >>
> >> --
> >> Cheers,
> >> Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
> >> http://vpc.essjae.com/
> >> I do not work for Microsoft.
> >>
>
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MikeCox



Joined: 26 Feb 2008
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 7:29 pm    Post subject: Re: USB or Paralled Workstion Reply with quote

It doesn't look like Vertualbox allows Vista to Host a VM

"A supported host operating system. Presently, we support Windows (primarily
XP) and many Linux distributions on 32-bit hosts and on 64-bit hosts. "

Or is that another one of those "support" issue; works but isn't supported?


Michael

XP SP2
and Trying to convert to Vista


"Steve Jain" wrote:

> Comments inline:
>
> On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 12:55:01 -0800, MikeCox
> wrote:
>
> >I have read a several responces to the USB issue; several of which just
> >boggled my mind.
> >
> >I am fairly computer savvy but tend to loose it when the conversation gets
> >too techy.
> >
> >Here's my issue:
> >
> >I've been given a Toshiba Satellite series 205 laptop with Vista Home
> >Premiere to replace my series 105 Toshiba with XP.
> >
> >I am scared to death of Vista; based on all the bad reviews I've read and
> >all the nasty things I've heard said about it on Cranky Geeks, etc.
>
> Are you having problems? If not, ignore the naysayers. I've been
> using Vista on many computers for a long time and it works great.
>
> >
> >I'm given serious thought to removing it and installing XP; until I heard
> >about VPC.
> >
> >Then I read it wouldn't run on Home Premiere, then I heard it would; even
> >though the documentation says it won't. So, will it? Or do I need to
> >upgrade Vista?
>
> VPC will work fine on Vista Home Premium, however, it is not supported
> by Microsoft. So, while it works fine, you can't call MS for product
> support.
>
> >
> >That was encourageing until I read it didn't support USB. So I went looking
> >to something that did; like Parallel Workstation.
> >
> >Then I read that: "The host system must be running one of the following:
> >Windows 2000, Windows XP, Windows Server 2003." So I guess that rules out
> >that option.
>
> I'm not sure where you saw that, look here, Vista is listed:
> http://www.parallels.com/en/products/workstation/sr/
>
> >
> >So I'm back to considering removing Vista or trying VPC; in spite of the USB
> >issue.
> >
> >I understand I can use the file Shareing option to get a USB HD to work with
> >VPC. But will the Host OS allow for USB applications; like printers etc.?
>
> Yes, you would simply share your printer via the standard network
> sharing and then connect to it from the guest.
>
> If you want a free VM product that supports USB, look at VirtualBox.
> It will run on Vista. http://www.virtualbox.org
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
> http://vpc.essjae.com/
> I do not work for Microsoft.
>
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Colin Barnhorst



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 7:38 pm    Post subject: Re: USB or Paralled Workstion Reply with quote

VPC runs on Vista Home Premium just fine. The confusion is because of the
phrase "not supported". All that means is that MS Product Support Services
does not help you with it (email or phone). That has nothing to do with how
it runs. When you install VPC you get a message telling you that you are
not running on a supported OS. When you click past that VPC will install
normally. XP Home is not supported either, so it has nothing to do with it
being Vista. To have MS support options you have to run a business edition
of either XP or Vista on your host computer.

Don't take the nay-sayers too seriously about Vista. There are websites out
there frequented by anti-Vista users and if you listened to them you would
never buy anything that hasn't been around since God was a freshman. Use
Vista and make your own judgment. I use both XP and Vista and Vista is my
workhorse. I do just about everything on it and am very satisfied with it.
I hope you have the same experience.

You can print to a usb printer attached to your Vista computer from an XP
virtual machine. As always, the computer the printer is attached to needs
to support the printer (have a driver).

The problem with installing XP on the newer laptops is that some of them
don't even have drivers for XP on the manufacturer's website. Just Vista.
In any case, use what you have for a while and I'm sure most of what you've
heard will prove not to be true.

"MikeCox" wrote in message @microsoft.com...
>I have read a several responces to the USB issue; several of which just
> boggled my mind.
>
> I am fairly computer savvy but tend to loose it when the conversation gets
> too techy.
>
> Here's my issue:
>
> I've been given a Toshiba Satellite series 205 laptop with Vista Home
> Premiere to replace my series 105 Toshiba with XP.
>
> I am scared to death of Vista; based on all the bad reviews I've read and
> all the nasty things I've heard said about it on Cranky Geeks, etc.
>
> I'm given serious thought to removing it and installing XP; until I heard
> about VPC.
>
> Then I read it wouldn't run on Home Premiere, then I heard it would; even
> though the documentation says it won't. So, will it? Or do I need to
> upgrade Vista?
>
> That was encourageing until I read it didn't support USB. So I went
> looking
> to something that did; like Parallel Workstation.
>
> Then I read that: "The host system must be running one of the following:
> Windows 2000, Windows XP, Windows Server 2003." So I guess that rules out
> that option.
>
> So I'm back to considering removing Vista or trying VPC; in spite of the
> USB
> issue.
>
> I understand I can use the file Shareing option to get a USB HD to work
> with
> VPC. But will the Host OS allow for USB applications; like printers etc.?
> --
> Michael
>
> XP SP2
> and Trying to convert to Vista
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Colin Barnhorst



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 8:01 pm    Post subject: Re: USB or Paralled Workstion Reply with quote

Did you notice the date of the review? "REVIEW DATE: 04.20.06". Vista
released to the public in January of 2007.

"MikeCox" wrote in message @microsoft.com...
> Thanks for your very complete reply.
>
> Don't know how to get Quotes in reply so I'll just cut and paste
>
> "Are you having problems? If not, ignore the naysayers. I've been
> using Vista on many computers for a long time and it works great."
>
> I'm not having problems; I've barely used it. *Thanks* for the
> encouragement; it's good to hear! I really would prefer to stick with
> Vista,
> now that I have it; I just don't want a whole new set of distractions and
> headaches.
>
> "I'm not sure where you saw that, look here, Vista is listed"
>
> Did I miss something?
> http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,1951936,00.asp
>
> Thanks for the Vertual Box link. I will check it out. I really would
> like
> not to have to deal with this USB issue.
>
>
> --
> Michael
>
> XP SP2
> and Trying to convert to Vista
>
>
> "Steve Jain" wrote:
>
>> Comments inline:
>>
>> On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 12:55:01 -0800, MikeCox
>> wrote:
>>
>> >I have read a several responces to the USB issue; several of which just
>> >boggled my mind.
>> >
>> >I am fairly computer savvy but tend to loose it when the conversation
>> >gets
>> >too techy.
>> >
>> >Here's my issue:
>> >
>> >I've been given a Toshiba Satellite series 205 laptop with Vista Home
>> >Premiere to replace my series 105 Toshiba with XP.
>> >
>> >I am scared to death of Vista; based on all the bad reviews I've read
>> >and
>> >all the nasty things I've heard said about it on Cranky Geeks, etc.
>>
>> Are you having problems? If not, ignore the naysayers. I've been
>> using Vista on many computers for a long time and it works great.
>>
>> >
>> >I'm given serious thought to removing it and installing XP; until I
>> >heard
>> >about VPC.
>> >
>> >Then I read it wouldn't run on Home Premiere, then I heard it would;
>> >even
>> >though the documentation says it won't. So, will it? Or do I need to
>> >upgrade Vista?
>>
>> VPC will work fine on Vista Home Premium, however, it is not supported
>> by Microsoft. So, while it works fine, you can't call MS for product
>> support.
>>
>> >
>> >That was encourageing until I read it didn't support USB. So I went
>> >looking
>> >to something that did; like Parallel Workstation.
>> >
>> >Then I read that: "The host system must be running one of the following:
>> >Windows 2000, Windows XP, Windows Server 2003." So I guess that rules
>> >out
>> >that option.
>>
>> I'm not sure where you saw that, look here, Vista is listed:
>> http://www.parallels.com/en/products/workstation/sr/
>>
>> >
>> >So I'm back to considering removing Vista or trying VPC; in spite of the
>> >USB
>> >issue.
>> >
>> >I understand I can use the file Shareing option to get a USB HD to work
>> >with
>> >VPC. But will the Host OS allow for USB applications; like printers
>> >etc.?
>>
>> Yes, you would simply share your printer via the standard network
>> sharing and then connect to it from the guest.
>>
>> If you want a free VM product that supports USB, look at VirtualBox.
>> It will run on Vista. http://www.virtualbox.org
>>
>> --
>> Cheers,
>> Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
>> http://vpc.essjae.com/
>> I do not work for Microsoft.
>>
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Steve Jain



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 8:50 pm    Post subject: Re: USB or Paralled Workstion Reply with quote

On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 14:29:03 -0800, MikeCox
wrote:

>It doesn't look like Vertualbox allows Vista to Host a VM
>
>"A supported host operating system. Presently, we support Windows (primarily
>XP) and many Linux distributions on 32-bit hosts and on 64-bit hosts. "
>
>Or is that another one of those "support" issue; works but isn't supported?
>
>
>Michael
>
>XP SP2
>and Trying to convert to Vista
>

According to the VirtualBox user's manual, both Vista and Vista x64
are supported host OSes. Virtual Box also supports 32b Vista as a VM.

--
Cheers,
Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
http://vpc.essjae.com/
I do not work for Microsoft.
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Bill Grant



Joined: 21 Aug 2007
Posts: 1094

PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 3:21 pm    Post subject: Re: USB or Paralled Workstion Reply with quote

My advice, Mike, is to just get used to runnig Vista. If you really want
XP as a fallback option, run it in VPC under Vista. It works really well.

"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message @microsoft.com...
> VPC runs on Vista Home Premium just fine. The confusion is because of the
> phrase "not supported". All that means is that MS Product Support
> Services does not help you with it (email or phone). That has nothing to
> do with how it runs. When you install VPC you get a message telling you
> that you are not running on a supported OS. When you click past that VPC
> will install normally. XP Home is not supported either, so it has nothing
> to do with it being Vista. To have MS support options you have to run a
> business edition of either XP or Vista on your host computer.
>
> Don't take the nay-sayers too seriously about Vista. There are websites
> out there frequented by anti-Vista users and if you listened to them you
> would never buy anything that hasn't been around since God was a freshman.
> Use Vista and make your own judgment. I use both XP and Vista and Vista
> is my workhorse. I do just about everything on it and am very satisfied
> with it. I hope you have the same experience.
>
> You can print to a usb printer attached to your Vista computer from an XP
> virtual machine. As always, the computer the printer is attached to needs
> to support the printer (have a driver).
>
> The problem with installing XP on the newer laptops is that some of them
> don't even have drivers for XP on the manufacturer's website. Just Vista.
> In any case, use what you have for a while and I'm sure most of what
> you've heard will prove not to be true.
>
> "MikeCox" wrote in message
> @microsoft.com...
>>I have read a several responces to the USB issue; several of which just
>> boggled my mind.
>>
>> I am fairly computer savvy but tend to loose it when the conversation
>> gets
>> too techy.
>>
>> Here's my issue:
>>
>> I've been given a Toshiba Satellite series 205 laptop with Vista Home
>> Premiere to replace my series 105 Toshiba with XP.
>>
>> I am scared to death of Vista; based on all the bad reviews I've read and
>> all the nasty things I've heard said about it on Cranky Geeks, etc.
>>
>> I'm given serious thought to removing it and installing XP; until I heard
>> about VPC.
>>
>> Then I read it wouldn't run on Home Premiere, then I heard it would; even
>> though the documentation says it won't. So, will it? Or do I need to
>> upgrade Vista?
>>
>> That was encourageing until I read it didn't support USB. So I went
>> looking
>> to something that did; like Parallel Workstation.
>>
>> Then I read that: "The host system must be running one of the following:
>> Windows 2000, Windows XP, Windows Server 2003." So I guess that rules out
>> that option.
>>
>> So I'm back to considering removing Vista or trying VPC; in spite of the
>> USB
>> issue.
>>
>> I understand I can use the file Shareing option to get a USB HD to work
>> with
>> VPC. But will the Host OS allow for USB applications; like printers
>> etc.?
>> --
>> Michael
>>
>> XP SP2
>> and Trying to convert to Vista
>
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 4:38 pm    Post subject: Re: USB or Paralled Workstion Reply with quote

Thanks Bill, and Colin;

I'm resigned, thanks to your good advice. I will run Vista and use VPC as a
fall back uption; and deal with whatever issue come up.

Thanks again (-: I really appreciate you help and support
--
Michael

XP SP2
and Trying to convert to Vista


"Bill Grant" wrote:

> My advice, Mike, is to just get used to runnig Vista. If you really want
> XP as a fallback option, run it in VPC under Vista. It works really well.
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message
> @microsoft.com...
> > VPC runs on Vista Home Premium just fine. The confusion is because of the
> > phrase "not supported". All that means is that MS Product Support
> > Services does not help you with it (email or phone). That has nothing to
> > do with how it runs. When you install VPC you get a message telling you
> > that you are not running on a supported OS. When you click past that VPC
> > will install normally. XP Home is not supported either, so it has nothing
> > to do with it being Vista. To have MS support options you have to run a
> > business edition of either XP or Vista on your host computer.
> >
> > Don't take the nay-sayers too seriously about Vista. There are websites
> > out there frequented by anti-Vista users and if you listened to them you
> > would never buy anything that hasn't been around since God was a freshman.
> > Use Vista and make your own judgment. I use both XP and Vista and Vista
> > is my workhorse. I do just about everything on it and am very satisfied
> > with it. I hope you have the same experience.
> >
> > You can print to a usb printer attached to your Vista computer from an XP
> > virtual machine. As always, the computer the printer is attached to needs
> > to support the printer (have a driver).
> >
> > The problem with installing XP on the newer laptops is that some of them
> > don't even have drivers for XP on the manufacturer's website. Just Vista.
> > In any case, use what you have for a while and I'm sure most of what
> > you've heard will prove not to be true.
> >
> > "MikeCox" wrote in message
> > @microsoft.com...
> >>I have read a several responces to the USB issue; several of which just
> >> boggled my mind.
> >>
> >> I am fairly computer savvy but tend to loose it when the conversation
> >> gets
> >> too techy.
> >>
> >> Here's my issue:
> >>
> >> I've been given a Toshiba Satellite series 205 laptop with Vista Home
> >> Premiere to replace my series 105 Toshiba with XP.
> >>
> >> I am scared to death of Vista; based on all the bad reviews I've read and
> >> all the nasty things I've heard said about it on Cranky Geeks, etc.
> >>
> >> I'm given serious thought to removing it and installing XP; until I heard
> >> about VPC.
> >>
> >> Then I read it wouldn't run on Home Premiere, then I heard it would; even
> >> though the documentation says it won't. So, will it? Or do I need to
> >> upgrade Vista?
> >>
> >> That was encourageing until I read it didn't support USB. So I went
> >> looking
> >> to something that did; like Parallel Workstation.
> >>
> >> Then I read that: "The host system must be running one of the following:
> >> Windows 2000, Windows XP, Windows Server 2003." So I guess that rules out
> >> that option.
> >>
> >> So I'm back to considering removing Vista or trying VPC; in spite of the
> >> USB
> >> issue.
> >>
> >> I understand I can use the file Shareing option to get a USB HD to work
> >> with
> >> VPC. But will the Host OS allow for USB applications; like printers
> >> etc.?
> >> --
> >> Michael
> >>
> >> XP SP2
> >> and Trying to convert to Vista
> >
>
>
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 6:15 pm    Post subject: Re: USB or Paralled Workstion Reply with quote

Enjoy!

"MikeCox" wrote in message @microsoft.com...
> Thanks Bill, and Colin;
>
> I'm resigned, thanks to your good advice. I will run Vista and use VPC as
> a
> fall back uption; and deal with whatever issue come up.
>
> Thanks again (-: I really appreciate you help and support
> --
> Michael
>
> XP SP2
> and Trying to convert to Vista
>
>
> "Bill Grant" wrote:
>
>> My advice, Mike, is to just get used to runnig Vista. If you really
>> want
>> XP as a fallback option, run it in VPC under Vista. It works really well.
>>
>> "Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message
>> @microsoft.com...
>> > VPC runs on Vista Home Premium just fine. The confusion is because of
>> > the
>> > phrase "not supported". All that means is that MS Product Support
>> > Services does not help you with it (email or phone). That has nothing
>> > to
>> > do with how it runs. When you install VPC you get a message telling
>> > you
>> > that you are not running on a supported OS. When you click past that
>> > VPC
>> > will install normally. XP Home is not supported either, so it has
>> > nothing
>> > to do with it being Vista. To have MS support options you have to run
>> > a
>> > business edition of either XP or Vista on your host computer.
>> >
>> > Don't take the nay-sayers too seriously about Vista. There are
>> > websites
>> > out there frequented by anti-Vista users and if you listened to them
>> > you
>> > would never buy anything that hasn't been around since God was a
>> > freshman.
>> > Use Vista and make your own judgment. I use both XP and Vista and
>> > Vista
>> > is my workhorse. I do just about everything on it and am very
>> > satisfied
>> > with it. I hope you have the same experience.
>> >
>> > You can print to a usb printer attached to your Vista computer from an
>> > XP
>> > virtual machine. As always, the computer the printer is attached to
>> > needs
>> > to support the printer (have a driver).
>> >
>> > The problem with installing XP on the newer laptops is that some of
>> > them
>> > don't even have drivers for XP on the manufacturer's website. Just
>> > Vista.
>> > In any case, use what you have for a while and I'm sure most of what
>> > you've heard will prove not to be true.
>> >
>> > "MikeCox" wrote in message
>> > @microsoft.com...
>> >>I have read a several responces to the USB issue; several of which just
>> >> boggled my mind.
>> >>
>> >> I am fairly computer savvy but tend to loose it when the conversation
>> >> gets
>> >> too techy.
>> >>
>> >> Here's my issue:
>> >>
>> >> I've been given a Toshiba Satellite series 205 laptop with Vista Home
>> >> Premiere to replace my series 105 Toshiba with XP.
>> >>
>> >> I am scared to death of Vista; based on all the bad reviews I've read
>> >> and
>> >> all the nasty things I've heard said about it on Cranky Geeks, etc.
>> >>
>> >> I'm given serious thought to removing it and installing XP; until I
>> >> heard
>> >> about VPC.
>> >>
>> >> Then I read it wouldn't run on Home Premiere, then I heard it would;
>> >> even
>> >> though the documentation says it won't. So, will it? Or do I need to
>> >> upgrade Vista?
>> >>
>> >> That was encourageing until I read it didn't support USB. So I went
>> >> looking
>> >> to something that did; like Parallel Workstation.
>> >>
>> >> Then I read that: "The host system must be running one of the
>> >> following:
>> >> Windows 2000, Windows XP, Windows Server 2003." So I guess that rules
>> >> out
>> >> that option.
>> >>
>> >> So I'm back to considering removing Vista or trying VPC; in spite of
>> >> the
>> >> USB
>> >> issue.
>> >>
>> >> I understand I can use the file Shareing option to get a USB HD to
>> >> work
>> >> with
>> >> VPC. But will the Host OS allow for USB applications; like printers
>> >> etc.?
>> >> --
>> >> Michael
>> >>
>> >> XP SP2
>> >> and Trying to convert to Vista
>> >
>>
>>

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