virtual pc on mac

rl288 · Joined: 27 Oct 2007 Posts: 1

I was told today by Microsoft today that you cannot use Virtual PC on
any intel based Mac. I assume if your Leopard is installed on one of
the older versions of Macs, it might work. I would call Microsoft
tech help.

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William Smith · Joined: 22 Aug 2007 Posts: 10

rl288@nj.rr.com wrote:
> I was told today by Microsoft today that you cannot use Virtual PC on
> any intel based Mac. I assume if your Leopard is installed on one of
> the older versions of Macs, it might work. I would call Microsoft
> tech help.

With less expensive and excellent alternatives springing into existence
such as Parallels, VMWare and CrossOver Mac, Microsoft saw little profit
in porting VirtualPC to the Intel platform.

I'm not sure how well VPC will work on Leopard.

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bill

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Mac G · Joined: 22 Aug 2007 Posts: 60

In article ,
Helpful Harry wrote:

> Technically they already had VirtualPC for the Intel platform and you
> can still buy it for Windows computers ... the problem is they didn't
> want to bother re-writing it (yet again) for MacOS computers.

VPC for Windows is now a free download.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/winfamily/virtualpc/default.msp
x
> Virtual PC 2007 is now available
> Whether Microsoft virtualization technology is an important component of your
> existing infrastructure or you're just a Virtual PC enthusiast, you can now
> download Virtual PC 2007 absolutely free.

Richard Cardona · Joined: 22 Aug 2007 Posts: 108

Helpful Harry wrote:
> Technically they already had VirtualPC for the Intel platform and you
> can still buy it for Windows computers ... the problem is they didn't
> want to bother re-writing it (yet again) for MacOS computers.

Unless...you're running Boot Camp natively on an Intel Mac. VPC 2007
works great under Windows via Boot Camp Smile

Helpful Harry · Joined: 22 Aug 2007 Posts: 324

In article , William Smith
wrote:

> rl288@nj.rr.com wrote:
> > I was told today by Microsoft today that you cannot use Virtual PC on
> > any intel based Mac. I assume if your Leopard is installed on one of
> > the older versions of Macs, it might work. I would call Microsoft
> > tech help.
>
> With less expensive and excellent alternatives springing into existence
> such as Parallels, VMWare and CrossOver Mac, Microsoft saw little profit
> in porting VirtualPC to the Intel platform.

Technically they already had VirtualPC for the Intel platform and you
can still buy it for Windows computers ... the problem is they didn't
want to bother re-writing it (yet again) for MacOS computers.

Helpful Harry
Hopefully helping harassed humans happily handle handiwork hardships ;o)

wyoung.8921 · Joined: 29 Oct 2007 Posts: 1

On Oct 26, 9:59 pm, rl...@nj.rr.com wrote:
> I was told today by Microsoft today that you cannot use Virtual PC on
> any intel based Mac. I assume if your Leopard is installed on one of
> the older versions of Macs, it might work. I would call Microsoft
> tech help.

Leopard actually breaks Virtual PC, specifically the KEXT file.

brianmeg · Joined: 29 Oct 2007 Posts: 1

On Oct 29, 7:46 am, wyoung.8...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Oct 26, 9:59 pm, rl...@nj.rr.com wrote:
>
> > I was told today by Microsoft today that you cannot use Virtual PC on
> > any intel based Mac. I assume if your Leopard is installed on one of
> > the older versions of Macs, it might work. I would call Microsoft
> > tech help.
>
> Leopard actually breaks Virtual PC, specifically the KEXT file.

I note, from other mail repated to this topic, that other people are
claiming that VPC 7.0.3 works ok after they have installed Leopard.
Why should the KEXT file be "broken" and what is the affect?

Fred Horvat · Joined: 22 Aug 2007 Posts: 69

I also own iEmulator. It's a version of QEMU. So it is an emulator on both
PPC and Intel. It does work but is not as polished as VPC nor as fast. For
$20 it's not that bad but for an Intel user I'd get Parallels or VMWare.

On 2/2/08 10:33 PM, in article
030220081633500849%helpful_harry@nom.de.plume.com, "Helpful Harry"
wrote:

> "kerry moses" wrote in message @webcrossing.caR9absDaxw...
>>
>> I have an Intel based iMac running the latest version of leopard and
>> virtual Pc will not install period. What are my alternatives as far as
>> downloads are concerned? I don't wanna purchase another program just to
>> use virtual pc for a few applications.
>
> The only way to get Virtual PC to run on an Intel-based Mac would be to
> run it inside a PowerPC emulator ... and it would be EXTREMELY slow
> (assuming you can find one that runs a new enough version of the Mac
> operating system to run your version of Virtual PC).
>
> More sensibly you need to sell Virtual PC on eBay or give it away, or
> even just throw it away. Then you have to buy one of the following
> options, none of which are free (although some have free trial
> versions):
>
> Parallels Desktop http://www.parallels.com/en/products/desktop/
> Similar to Virtual PC, it runs Windows inside a Mac OS X
> window.
>
>
> VMWare Fusion http://www.vmware.com/products/fusion/
> Another option that is similar to Virtual PC, it runs
> Windows inside a Mac OS X window.
>
>
> Boot Camp http://www.apple.com/bootcamp
> Lets you have a dual-boot computer, but you have to
> reboot to sawp between Windows and Mac OS X. This is
> the best choice for games or other 3D-reliant
> applications since it runs at "full speed" and uses
> the 3D graphics card in your Mac.
>
>
> iEmulator http://www.iemulator.com
> I don't know much about this one, but it calls itself
> an "emulator" despite running on Intel Macs, so may be
> slower than the other options.
>
>
> CrossOver http://www.codeweavers.com/products/cxmac/
> This lets you run SOME Windows applications directly in
> MacOS X itself. The list of compatible applications is
> limited, but changing all the time.
>
>
> Apart from CrossOver, you will also need to buy a legal version of
> Windows itself ... NOT the one that may have come with your copy of
> Virtual PC.
>
>
> Helpful Harry
> Hopefully helping harassed humans happily handle handiwork hardships ;o)

Helpful Harry · Joined: 22 Aug 2007 Posts: 324

"kerry moses" wrote in message @webcrossing.caR9absDaxw...
>
> I have an Intel based iMac running the latest version of leopard and
> virtual Pc will not install period. What are my alternatives as far as
> downloads are concerned? I don't wanna purchase another program just to
> use virtual pc for a few applications.

The only way to get Virtual PC to run on an Intel-based Mac would be to
run it inside a PowerPC emulator ... and it would be EXTREMELY slow
(assuming you can find one that runs a new enough version of the Mac
operating system to run your version of Virtual PC).

More sensibly you need to sell Virtual PC on eBay or give it away, or
even just throw it away. Then you have to buy one of the following
options, none of which are free (although some have free trial
versions):

Parallels Desktop http://www.parallels.com/en/products/desktop/
Similar to Virtual PC, it runs Windows inside a Mac OS X
window.

VMWare Fusion http://www.vmware.com/products/fusion/
Another option that is similar to Virtual PC, it runs
Windows inside a Mac OS X window.

Boot Camp http://www.apple.com/bootcamp
Lets you have a dual-boot computer, but you have to
reboot to sawp between Windows and Mac OS X. This is
the best choice for games or other 3D-reliant
applications since it runs at "full speed" and uses
the 3D graphics card in your Mac.

iEmulator http://www.iemulator.com
I don't know much about this one, but it calls itself
an "emulator" despite running on Intel Macs, so may be
slower than the other options.

CrossOver http://www.codeweavers.com/products/cxmac/
This lets you run SOME Windows applications directly in
MacOS X itself. The list of compatible applications is
limited, but changing all the time.

Apart from CrossOver, you will also need to buy a legal version of
Windows itself ... NOT the one that may have come with your copy of
Virtual PC.

Helpful Harry
Hopefully helping harassed humans happily handle handiwork hardships ;o)

Frank · Joined: 04 Feb 2008 Posts: 2

Hi!

I need to run 3 different versions of Windows -- amnd I could do so very well with my G4 Mac and Virtual PC 7.0.3 (although they were not too fast, all worked). Now I got a new Intel-based MacBook and bootCamp is included free, but it only allows me to run one version of Windows ... as far as I understand.

Anyone knows if there is a way, e.g. with BootCamp, or with Parallels or any of the others mentioned here to install more than one Windows version?

Thanks!

Colin Barnhorst · Joined: 06 Jan 2008 Posts: 210

Harry, are you sure Boot Camp will support more than one partition at a
time?

"Helpful Harry" wrote in message %helpful_harry@nom.de.plume.com...
> In article , "Colin
> Barnhorst" wrote:
>> "Frank" wrote in message @webcrossing.caR9absDaxw...
>> >
>> > Hi!
>> >
>> > I need to run 3 different versions of Windows -- amnd I could do so
>> > very well with my G4 Mac and Virtual PC 7.0.3 (although they were not
>> > too fast, all worked). Now I got a new Intel-based MacBook and bootCamp
>> > is included free, but it only allows me to run one version of Windows
>> > ... as far as I understand.
>> >
>> > Anyone knows if there is a way, e.g. with BootCamp, or with Parallels
>> > or any of the others mentioned here to install more than one Windows
>> > version?
>>
>> You can use Parallels to run several versions of Windows. Just create a
>> different virtual machine for each one.
>
> You can also install as many different operating systems with Boot Camp
> as you want, not just Windows (limited by hard drive space of course).
> You then reboot the computer into whichever one you want to use.
>
> No doubt VMWare Fusion lets you create multiple virtual machines as
> well.
>
> Helpful Harry
> Hopefully helping harassed humans happily handle handiwork hardships ;o)

Helpful Harry · Joined: 22 Aug 2007 Posts: 324

In article , "Colin
Barnhorst" wrote:
> "Frank" wrote in message @webcrossing.caR9absDaxw...
> >
> > Hi!
> >
> > I need to run 3 different versions of Windows -- amnd I could do so
> > very well with my G4 Mac and Virtual PC 7.0.3 (although they were not
> > too fast, all worked). Now I got a new Intel-based MacBook and bootCamp
> > is included free, but it only allows me to run one version of Windows
> > ... as far as I understand.
> >
> > Anyone knows if there is a way, e.g. with BootCamp, or with Parallels
> > or any of the others mentioned here to install more than one Windows
> > version?
>
> You can use Parallels to run several versions of Windows. Just create a
> different virtual machine for each one.

You can also install as many different operating systems with Boot Camp
as you want, not just Windows (limited by hard drive space of course).
You then reboot the computer into whichever one you want to use.

No doubt VMWare Fusion lets you create multiple virtual machines as
well.

Helpful Harry
Hopefully helping harassed humans happily handle handiwork hardships ;o)

Helpful Harry · Joined: 22 Aug 2007 Posts: 324

In article , "Colin
Barnhorst" wrote:
> "Helpful Harry" wrote in message
> %helpful_harry@nom.de.plume.com...
> > In article , "Colin
> > Barnhorst" wrote:
> >> "Frank" wrote in message @webcrossing.caR9absDaxw...
> >> >
> >> > I need to run 3 different versions of Windows -- amnd I could do so
> >> > very well with my G4 Mac and Virtual PC 7.0.3 (although they were not
> >> > too fast, all worked). Now I got a new Intel-based MacBook and bootCamp
> >> > is included free, but it only allows me to run one version of Windows
> >> > ... as far as I understand.
> >> >
> >> > Anyone knows if there is a way, e.g. with BootCamp, or with Parallels
> >> > or any of the others mentioned here to install more than one Windows
> >> > version?
> >>
> >> You can use Parallels to run several versions of Windows. Just create a
> >> different virtual machine for each one.
> >
> > You can also install as many different operating systems with Boot Camp
> > as you want, not just Windows (limited by hard drive space of course).
> > You then reboot the computer into whichever one you want to use.
> >
> > No doubt VMWare Fusion lets you create multiple virtual machines as
> > well.
>
> Harry, are you sure Boot Camp will support more than one partition at a
> time?

Not 100% since I've never used it, but I have read about a few other
people who have triple / quadruple / quintuple booting Macs where they
can choose MacOS, Windows 98, Windows 2000 / XP and Linux (and possibly
something like BeOS).

Helpful Harry
Hopefully helping harassed humans happily handle handiwork hardships ;o)

Frank · Joined: 04 Feb 2008 Posts: 2

      > ... but I have > read about a few other people who have triple / >>
      quadruple / quintuple booting Macs where they > can choose MacOS, Windows
      98, Windows 2000 / > XP and Linux (and possibly something like BeOS).

It would then be important to find out the HOW-TO. I doubt that this is possible. When you open the "Boot Camp Assistant" program it only allows you to create one additional partition (in addition to the Mac partition, I mean).

Frank

Paul Power · Joined: 22 Aug 2007 Posts: 41

On Feb 6, 1:45 pm, "Colin Barnhorst" wrote:
> As Frank says, Boot Camp only supports one Windows partition. It does not
> have to be on the same drive with OS/X but it has to be on an internal
> drive.
>
> I have read references to a few multiboot systems of the type you describe
> but they were not put together with Boot Camp or with anything else
> generally available.
>
> "Helpful Harry" wrote in message
>
> %helpful_harry@nom.de.plume.com...
>
>
>
> > In article , "Colin
> > Barnhorst" wrote:
> >> "Helpful Harry" wrote in message
> >>%helpful_harry@nom.de.plume.com...
> >> > In article , "Colin
> >> > Barnhorst" wrote:
> >> >> "Frank" wrote in message@webcrossing.caR9absDaxw....
>
> >> >> > I need to run 3 different versions of Windows -- amnd I could do so
> >> >> > very well with my G4 Mac and Virtual PC 7.0.3 (although they were
> >> >> > not
> >> >> > too fast, all worked). Now I got a new Intel-based MacBook and
> >> >> > bootCamp
> >> >> > is included free, but it only allows me to run one version of
> >> >> > Windows
> >> >> > ... as far as I understand.
>
> >> >> > Anyone knows if there is a way, e.g. with BootCamp, or with
> >> >> > Parallels
> >> >> > or any of the others mentioned here to install more than one Windows
> >> >> > version?
>
> >> >> You can use Parallels to run several versions of Windows. Just create
> >> >> a
> >> >> different virtual machine for each one.
>
> >> > You can also install as many different operating systems with Boot Camp
> >> > as you want, not just Windows (limited by hard drive space of course)..
> >> > You then reboot the computer into whichever one you want to use.
>
> >> > No doubt VMWare Fusion lets you create multiple virtual machines as
> >> > well.
>
> >> Harry, are you sure Boot Camp will support more than one partition at a
> >> time?
>
> > Not 100% since I've never used it, but I have read about a few other
> > people who have triple / quadruple / quintuple booting Macs where they
> > can choose MacOS, Windows 98, Windows 2000 / XP and Linux (and possibly
> > something like BeOS).
>
> > Helpful Harry
> > Hopefully helping harassed humans happily handle handiwork hardships ;o)- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Boot Camp supports only ONE additional partition (direct from Apple
support). In addition, versions of Windows earlier than Windows XP
will NOT install.

For Parallels, you require, at minimum, Windows XP. Earlier versions
will also not install.

Not sure about VMware

Hope that helps clear the confusion